Recently we have published an article about the need for an antifascist stance against the anti-lockdown protest (Blame the Game) on indymedia. We were very happy to see that a lot of people agreed, liked and could align with the statement. Further, the sharing on the telegram channel was highly appreciated. Since we are a loosely organised international autonmous Antifa group and would like to remain this way we were wondering if there are more established groups (Vrije Bond, Forum Voor Anarchisme, AFA Nederland etc.) who are willing to help us to organise an “official” protest. Something along the lines “make the rich pay for covid-19” or “corona is the virus - capitalism is the crisis”. I think that could be a good start to show our response also to people who feel like only the right responses at the moment. In Solidarity, your somewhat autonmous antifa amsterdam <3

Let me know so we can exchange email

Digital Anarchist
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11Y

Hi, sounds like a good idea and can imagine there are more people out there who wanna join. With FvA we can help with the promotion, but FvA it self is not a group (yet?), we only provide platforms for people to communicate, share ideas, actions, and to come together.

We passed the massage along to Vrije Bond, but I think they would be willing to join for sure.

In the meantime we can maybe brainstorm about other groups to join, does any one reading this know other groups that might be interested to join?

(technical note: you can send message directly to each other, so you don’t have to share you emails or other details here in the open. Make sure you have an account and just click on the user name you would like to send a message to. Then there is a big button with ‘send message’)

@Oidorno161
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11Y

Awesome! Thanks in advance. An interesting debate to have beforehand is to what extent ideological diversity can be beneficial to a strong statement? Not talking about Groen-Links here of course. But Anti-capitalism as an attempt to unite the radical left? Or excluding tankies and organisations like internationale socialisten because of very problematic instances and ideological stances? Recently the Rosa Luxemburg memorial demo in Berlin had really shown how although clearly separated in block how unity against capitalism and police repression may be strong. Not making a statement in favor or against here just an important debate to have, that we are having all the time with good arguments on both sides.

Also important that not only Dutch organisations feel invited our kurdish, iranian comrades and so on, too

this debate had been waiting to be had for a while now i think. in my circles theres alot of uncertainty about how to deal with ideological diversity in practical situations…

What happened in this rosa luxemburg memorial demo?

@Oidorno161
creator
11Y

Well you have of course sympathy for Rosa’s biography in all kinds of antifascist circles. Still this event attracts all kinds of groups even GDR nostalgic groups like the FDJ (Freie Deutsche Jugend) the youth organisation of the SED (GDR’s/ Hoenekers party) with which ideolgy most of the scene disagrees even Tankies haha. It also makes a lot of sense, I want to point out here to, dislike them. Their flags are illegal in West Germany but remained legal after the fall of the wall in East germany. Still, at this event in East Berlin a few weeks ago the police wouldn’t let the demo march and attacked after a while the FDJ block incredibly violently. All kinds of groups showed united solidarity in direct response attempting to stop the cops from attacking literally also kids but also afterwards unifying statements against police represssion.

So what fascinates me about this annually happening demo is the amount of people that can be mobilised, making it probably the most important and impressive event for the radical left in Germany. Unity in sharing a problem definition the rise of fascism and capitalism, everything Rosa Luxemburg was fighting against leading to hear murder by the Freikorps.

I do, however, want to point out that the German left is highly divided as the Dutch left is,too. And this for good reasons ideologically problematic groups are a horror. Correct political analysis is important especially for the long run

Digital Anarchist
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admin
11Y

Hey, there was a small discussion going on between Vrije Bond members but it kinda dropped silenced.

I do have this article to share that gives a pretty good analysis on the landscape of the anti lockdown movement in Germany but I think a lot of it is true for the Netherlands also. http://bostonreview.net/politics/william-callison-quinn-slobodian-coronapolitics-reichstag-capitol

For now I wish there were more people on the platform to join in to the conversation but I’m afraid the platform is a bit to new still. We are working hard to promote it and if you can please share it in your anarchist circle to get people to join in to. The more people the better it functions.

@Oidorno161
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11Y

There is movement on the matter will keep the comrades here up to date so you can mobilise in case something comes out of it.

Digital Anarchist
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11Y

Hey I see, it worked out :). We made a post here for the even: https://forum.forumvooranarchisme.nl/post/7416

We will keep promoting it till then and if there is anything more we can help with let us know!

Digital Anarchist
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11Y

oke awesome, please do and good luck!

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